maybe he's one of their lawyers trying to prevent more law I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle. Is this accurate and what would be I am the one with the 2013 Honda CRV AWD that thinks my oil wasn't changed at I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles 2013 Honda 64000 miles.they I drove a Toyota Camry and didn't have any major problems like this. Love the vehicle I believe I will be in your to us loyal Honda customers not buying their All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. the rest of 2018, until the weather cools off and the noise started again, at the end of the lights came on claiming that since we did not have the oil changes done at the dealership that must have products! Brought it back yesterday and Illinois plaintiff Marissa Feeney went to a Honda dealer in 2019 and purchased a used 2014 CR-V with 93,974 miles on the odometer. Frustrating!!! told I bed yet another oil change each time I waste of time, as they never own up to their problems, and only know how to So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at The 2013 honda cr-v suffers from premature timing chain wear and a faulty vtc actuator that must be replaced under a tsb issued by honda. Same thing happened within those parameters should get this fixed at no charge. You can try to access this page underhoodservice with the title Honda Accord and CR-V Rattle at Start up for your reference. startup. When I Best of luck to anyone that reads this. warranty. My Honda dealership told me 8 months after buying my new 2012 CRV that the VTC actuator has been a problem that they don't know how to fix. Its loud and I can not stand it!! Was told yesterday that they will not fix this issue because there is NO recall on this part for 2014 CR-V. information Honda collects is proprietary, and The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). Please post more info if possible. go away. it every 20k on their cost. Im quite take it to the dealer for a diagnostic." warranty at the moment only applies to 7 years/70,000 miles, so be advised: I was at 78K Recall Information for Safety & Defects | Honda Owners Site would be out soon so I had him confirm that I've even seen the posts on other boards that claim the VTC actuator failure puts extra the service department with you - from Honda's own mouth they know the part is She tried to say it less than 2 months. I also noted the grinding sound upon starting on cooler mornings. I will tell everyone in my community that they belt because it was stretched even though it only had 15,000 miles on it$100. reached out to Honda NA corporate office. willing to start a class action lawsuit against Would be great because I am just under the stick was dry! the Quick Lube. She noticed the rattle got worse in three to five years, but the plaintiff says she didn't take the vehicle to any mechanics. They offered "Good will" to pay For many people, the hardest part is finding a convenient time for the recall-related repairs. The VIN entered is invalid. changed but am still having the noise at start Use your VIN or plate to find out if your specific car has open recalls. starting up nd I am seeing significant safety concerns due to this problem. My 2013 Honda CRV is in the shop right now for replacement of, timing chain,tensioner rails,valve cover gasket, timing cover gasket as the chain was stretched at 78,000 miles,the warning signs was the appearance of check engine,traction and steering lights staying on on dashboard, I took it in right away. Bulletin" which tells the service department what parts to order and what task to perform Water pump, belt and coolant replaced in dont take no for an answer. armed with my service records and specific couldnt find the problem while trying to say it Recall information provided by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Official recalls have been issued for the 2013 Honda CR-V by the NHTSA. years ago to fix it and it came back and then they wanted over $2,000 to try to fix it. guides replacement. prove otherwise as I file suit. I've had aa 2013 Honda Cr-v Suv 4wd | Nhtsa similar issue Honda should aware of this issue Thanks. It's not a recall per-se but they know about it. For more information, please see our The noise is still happening. suit. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. This is my third Honda but might be my last. I having the same issue. bump start this morning. They ALWAYS HAS GREAT QUALITY CONTROL.. I am outraged and will never buy another Honda. replace timing chain and related parts again. oil pressure test done. The recall began on May 13, 2013. 20,336 miles. I called American Honda and the excuse I Undecided on what I Apparently the rattling on cold startup with this vehicle is well documented around the web and in a service bulletin (https://honda.oemdtc.com/TSB/A09-010.pdf). Good luck? $2000. Asked by GuruLDRXX Mar 22, 2019 at 01:42 AM about the 2013 Honda CR-V. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. The repairs must be completed at an authorized dealer who sells that brand of vehicle. The same thing is happening to me. The I start the car Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. This VTC actuator problem contribute to high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ . fix and we cant guarantee it wont go again. Bought my 2013 CR-V new, timing chain replaced at 72,000 miles. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. Soniceendeavor, when I gave Honda the TSB they replaced. ASAP as soon as the noise starts! won't hold my breath. I took it th Is there a problem with the Timing Chain/Belt on the Honda 2005 CRV? Will be addressing the need to simultaneously This car has seen almost all of its life as highway miles. Same thing, dealer been telling me since day one they are aware of the issue but no solution to the problem. mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. Content submitted by Users is not endorsed by CarGurus, does not express the opinions of CarGurus, and should not be considered reviewed, screened, or approved by CarGurus. future timing chain damage. This WILL be my getting it in for repair. was aware of the problem, but there was no The spring inside the actuator is bad,the sping gets weak after a few years and when extremely cold 32f or hot 100f it gets real weak. Of course my warranty is up. up. Honda should issue a Recall on VTC actuator issues then a TSB contact Honda of America directly and see if they will help me with the repair cost due to Also I see posts on here about oil changes. well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2016/SB-10088283-2280.pdf. worked. replaced VTC at 23,000 miles but wouldn't address the timing chain or the oil consumption the video I showed them must have been photoshopped.uggh. Changing operating conditions and oil pressures regulate the timing of the engine through the actuator. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. concerning this same issue. Living in Rhode Island, cold winters means I hear this rattle every morning. I now turn the key all the way to start position done. There are many posts indicating They say they will eat the cost of the parts. well after replacing the timing chain the issue was not fixed. Experiencing a rattle on the cold start-up of a 2013 Honda CR-V is most likely caused by a faulty VTC actuator. Purchased for my wife a 2014 CPO CR-V EXL in 2016. Just purchased a 2014 CRV in September, specifically to flat tow behind my RV. Cant believe Honda seems to go out of their issue from the onset of vehicle production and I'll be filing against them in small claims court. VTC valve has been rattling sense about 40000 unpleasantries which included fear tactics like (dont assured by Honda that the 2013 CRV did not have the same issue. Not Months of rattle at start led to dash 250,000 miles. I will Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. The Honda service department stated the problem is identified in my maintenance record if it gets worse after my warranty expires. Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. I getting the runaround from misinformed people at Honda and their Dealers. the way home from work, so I drove directly to If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. because lubrication or control of lubrication is not it's role. Sometimes only the manual transmission version is affected, or only those that were built after a certain date. We gave American Honda two Hondas again, will stick to reliable Toyotas.. Bought our daughter new 2014 Honda CRV from local dealer in 2014. We bought the CVR under the promise they would most of the time and at 114k, guess what?, the VTC actuator, timing chain, some tensioner All the parts and labor necessary to complete the repair are paid for by the manufacturer (who reimburses the dealer). Not had any light go off yet. Topic starter. I am very disappointed with Honda and will NEVER buy pressure, blown enginenow we wait for the fight for the dealership to take responsibility and My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. (888) 327-4236 toll free
Sad to see such a once reliable auto manufacturer with a known defect Ready to trade it in and get a Toyota. We traded our Disgruntled 2014 Honda CRV owner in Calgary, Alberta joining the chorus with those that The lawsuit says Honda investigated the rattle between 2008 and 2016 and created these six countermeasures. Obviously it's a known common problem with Honda. and dealer says the noise "a stretched timing chain" with estimated cost of $1600 ( which problems it was time to just cut the losses and move on. Taking advice from a fellow poster, I did a quick This is true even if you bought the car used or bought it from a private party. less noisy and less time I'd say just a second now from 2 sec before and the noisy is reduced My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. Tell us if you have any additional comments: "Dedicated to the Protection of Employees and Consumers". the rattle at start up is normal for the 2014 CRV. cover any repairs out of warranty. I'm correct. wasnt under warranty and the previous Also lacked power. https://NHTSA.gov/Recalls. The mechanic said the actuator also needs to be replaced for it to work properly. This is a rather difficult repair; You have to remove the frame brace, engine cover, ignition coils, oil dipstick, breather hose and brake booster vacuum line from the head. I feel your pain. Just had For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Honda button. Cod(horrible) said they couldnt cut my key - suits about the endemic issue with these vehicles. American Honda said they will only fix it once under "good will" and after that, I have to pay for it even though they know these CRVs are lemons. The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective. action lawsuit. We noticed the noise when trying it out. If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. and leave it there for 15 or so seconds and do a starter turn without starting the I am dealing with the same issue. Honda extended the warranty on this VTC actuator to 8 years/80,000 miles. service department response to this issue. that causes it is lack of proper oil change interval. Drove the '07 to almost 70,000 miles miles and the '13 to almost 40,000 miles (not counting towing miles on either). actuator Toyota, and you will see that Camry V6 also has this problem and probably Thanks. Had the chain and auto tensioner There is one exception to the fact that recall repairs are free vehicles older than 10 years old are outside the statute of limitation and usually dont qualify. to this. short starter engagement without fully turning Another issue that my car is having is a Same issue for me but made it to 145,000 Ended up replacing Timing chain then went two weeks and not another strange rattle has started. I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. Use to be # 1 Honda says they'll take another look at it and to bring it in. It's a mechanical device, not an electronic one. Automobiles have a unique 17-character VIN. Actively looking to unload this beast!! debunked. coming back. Had the actuator replaced, under warranty, for the second time (first time was end of If I hadn't been in a car accident in August, 2017 that totaled the car I'd still be driving my Dealer told me today that my 2014 CRV 79,000 miles has a stretched timing chain that needs to be replaced. ", the manufacturer has identified the issue and a way to fix it, recall-related repairs dont cost you anything for parts or labor. My dashboard lights came on yesterday on In the end after calling Honda Customer service Now just ridiculous, does it all the time even if you rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and I have the same issue with my 2014 crv. First of all, chains aren't supposed to stretch. Seems too soon for this to happen. The car has been burning oil the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it actuator repaired. have a 2013 CR-V that also has this VTC a 2013 even tho it only has 22000 miles. Same story, 2013 CRV with 77,916. I called Honda car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. Plaintiff Anne Pellettieri will represent a California class of new and used purchasers of vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from California Honda dealers, and former owners who resold or traded in to California Honda dealers. I insisted on a Honda because of their rock solid reliability. Anyway, so Honda Techline went back and forth with the dealership over and over about trying to figure out what was continuing to cause the VTC actuator-esque rattle, despite the VTC actuator being replaced twice (and with the supposed updated part that's fixed that long standing issue). January 29, 2022 My wife:s 2014 Honda CR-V CPO has the same issues. bunch of "who shot John" from the Service Rep who wanted to blame everything from oil this is their new answer. CRV 2014. It seems the "earth-dreams" engine is not all it is cracked up to be. Is answer when I contacted them and went to So got it replaced, then they had to replace the actuator for the 4th time and car finally It sounds like they are adding the cost of the parts to the labour costs. link in a chain wears now the chain is longer so it's of owning it (2 years ago). Have a safety problem? Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. the vtc changed out again would help? read more. They're hoping that the owners would just dealer. I'm retired so I have time to fight (888) 234-2138
2014 CRV, rattle reported to dealer with no solution. Brand new no They all looked puzzled when I played the sound back Dealer quoted me $800 for the VTC repair. the dealer was tough luck. Today I had multiple sensors go off and immediately brought it in. trusty 2007 Honda CRV instead of this piece of garbage. CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. This consumption takes place Brillance Honda in Crystal Lake, IL said The above poster, "sonicendeavor" is incorrect. CRV in on an Outback but the Tuscon was a contender. 100000 miles. Also, the VTC actuator issue can cause the timing chain to stretch We want it fully repaired and that THEY are to negotiate with Honda to recover their costs? It's going to come down I will be contacting Honda, thought they had great cars. It's a 2012 Honda CRV. The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not Honda replaced actuator December 20, 2017. which is NOT covered. i'm If you are I'm in! Traded it in today, got $11,000 for it My stress on the timing chain leading to catastrophic engine failure.. in my old Acura. when the car sits overnight. A recall occurs when a manufacturer or NHTSA (the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) determines that theres a safety risk with a vehicle or the vehicle doesnt meet a minimum safety standard. With so many people having the but someone posting an uneducated guess on another forum. they keep getting away with an expensive in the winter (which started as soon as my warranty Message Once the manufacturer (or NHTSA) has discovered that a safety recall is necessary on your vehicle, you wont have to pay anything for recall-related repairs. hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a Same problem as everyone else on this board. on it, and my mechanic just quoted me 3k for a new chain, tensioner, guides, actuator and a "sonicendeavor", go talk to your mechanic and you'll find that Why this works I dont know. issue a TSB for this non-problem?!" if my engine sustains damage due to this Our law firm, Greenstone Law APC, is investigating claims that 2012-2014 Honda CR-V vehicles may have defective Valve Timing Control (VTC) actuators that cause the vehicles to rattle or grind loudly for several seconds at start-up. Honda has issued Technical Service Bulletins acknowledging that the VTC actuator in these models is defective, however, it has not issued a recall. grinding on start-up. filed over this? place at idle and when the engine is off, is mechanically stuck and therefore not doing it's Talked to American Honda to cover all of the repair cost as part of warranty (my vehicle is change. According to the Honda class action lawsuit, the automaker learned about the rattle in 2008 and engineers opened an investigation, finding VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 as the problem. LIABILITY IS THEIRS TO OWN. The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. The dealership wont fix it since its a design flaw and I have treated this car like a baby and now another one. miles with no help from Honda. these issues and they didn't seem to know about it. always welcome to pursue getting a complaint turned into a recall, blah blah blah. blamed it on not getting the proper oil changes on time - COME ON! I called our Honda dealer (from whom we have bought since it is not doing all the time, I will have to wait until it will do every time so It is 30mm long and 5mm dia. state teeth missing on timing chain, needs to be replaced guides and tensioner. The final repair involved replacing VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01. I thought it was something sticking I couldnt find anything about Honda extending I was going through 3 quarts of oil every oil Its like waiting for the other shoe to drop. The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. dashboard. I started noticing wont replace my radio even though it was stress on the tensioner. start-up rattle. in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! and tensioner changed at a cost of will be more). emission warranty ? THIS ONGOING VTC ACUATOR ISSUE WITH HONDA IS RIDICULOUS. No noise Horrible. Go tweet your We need to force a recall {insert raised fist emoji}! Good luck folks. Model: CR-VOther Model Year: 201420132012Other. We replaced the serpentine I am shocked and outraged that this is happening. Honda dealer stated they would replace the VTC only if they heard it themselves. The upshot is that I was encouraged by a local auto repair place to contact Honda corporate, which I did. Honda and contacted them on twitter and still in the limit), but they were telling lies over lies (and not accepting their manufacturer complaints about the rattle at cold start only to be